tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post1245692974791178739..comments2024-03-25T10:22:04.995-07:00Comments on Ed Gorman's blog: Dick Lochte's Top 20 Private Eye NovelsEd Gormanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06126267358266480356noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-61097089622030268592014-08-25T06:09:52.226-07:002014-08-25T06:09:52.226-07:00This is nice post.The dick Lochte is a terrific wr...This is nice post.The dick Lochte is a terrific writer like that great post.Female Private Investigatorhttp://www.allprolegal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-11816273827786225142012-10-01T18:52:48.110-07:002012-10-01T18:52:48.110-07:00I am a big MacDonald fan. My favorite is The Chil...I am a big MacDonald fan. My favorite is The Chilljdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-57241731475529644122012-02-23T05:45:32.442-08:002012-02-23T05:45:32.442-08:00It is so nice recommendation, I really advise a re...It is so nice recommendation, I really advise a related subject here <a href="http://stopfatgain.com" rel="nofollow">buy duromine</a><br />NadraNadranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-6858460206291287762012-02-06T16:59:15.673-08:002012-02-06T16:59:15.673-08:00I know my dad love private eye books, movies, etc....I know my dad love private eye books, movies, etc. I'll have to send him this list to see if he's read any of those. I've seen a few of those movies before, they're all pretty good! I think it's funny Big Lebowski made it onto this list, it's weird to see it grouped with a classic like Chinatown. :)sell gold lahttp://goldrusla.com/buy-or-sell-gold/how-to-sell-your-gold-and-jewelry/where-to-sell-gold-coins-in-los-angeles/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-13148291984777998322010-11-02T22:18:01.521-07:002010-11-02T22:18:01.521-07:00It is the best blog I would vote for you a million...It is the best blog I would vote for you a million times if I could.<br />www.hugeh.comsayedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03257207956246867311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-56839357994611263672010-10-20T22:59:22.336-07:002010-10-20T22:59:22.336-07:00I would have probably included something by Michae...I would have probably included something by Michael Levin and Stephen Green leaf as well. Nice to see no Spillane as I find him unbearably bad.Refurbished Computershttp://www.electrocomputerwarehouse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-30099520562754241722010-09-29T16:09:40.091-07:002010-09-29T16:09:40.091-07:00Where's Bill Pronzini?Where's Bill Pronzini?Brachinushttp://brachinus.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-26025555222318394052010-09-09T17:31:06.636-07:002010-09-09T17:31:06.636-07:00Of all the comments about authors missing from my ...Of all the comments about authors missing from my book list -- and there have been quite a few here and elsewhere -- the one that is the most valid is Mickey Spillane. Originally, the list was much longer. Fifty titles, maybe. In whittling it down, I'm not sure why I dropped I, THE JURY. It's certainly not because I don't consider it "essential." Love him or hate him -- and I can't even use the latter as an excuse -- Mike Hammer is a key player in private eye history. It was a mistake not to include him.<br /><br />Dick LochteDick Lochtehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09639155075894974689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-90282129008901906702010-09-04T02:20:02.583-07:002010-09-04T02:20:02.583-07:00Nice to see Charles Alverson on the list. I haven&...Nice to see Charles Alverson on the list. I haven't read his Goodey books, but his one-off crime novel FIGHTING BACK (1973) is a very good Mafia novel about a restaurant keeper who avenges the mob. (It's got nothing to do with the movie of the same title, even though the stories seem pretty much the same.) <br /><br />Alverson knew Terry Gilliam in the sixties and is credited with having some of the screenplay for Gilliam's first feature film, JABBERWOCKY.Jurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03021010310386744591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-82852391699586088152010-09-02T08:04:24.103-07:002010-09-02T08:04:24.103-07:00Dick Lochte is a terrific writer and a great guy, ...Dick Lochte is a terrific writer and a great guy, but his novel list does not serve the PWA's stated intention of creating an "essentials" list. Bob Randisi has stated, more or less, that he wants to create a reading list that would help a beginning reader in the genre understand that genre.<br /><br />Certain writers belong on such a list without question. Hammett. Chandler. And of course Mickey Spillane, despite what one of these comments says. Spillane shaped and reinvigorated the postwar private eye novel -- without I, THE JURY or ONE LONELY NIGHT, you don't really get it. Certain writers I don't particulary care for -- Robert B. Parker for instance -- need to be on the list for similar reasons -- Parker reinvigorated and put a new stamp on the genre (Crais and Mosley, fine writers, could not have written their books without Parker going first). So whether I "like" Parker or not is beside the point: he's an essential. The same argument applies to Spillane.<br /><br />And you need both Sue Grafton and Sara Paretsky on such a list to understand and appreciate the wave of female private eyes (and female private eye writers). <br /><br />I love Warren Murphy as a guy and a writer, and the TRACE books are fun -- but he's on and John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee isn't? And again, Trace but not Mike Hammer? A bunch of these choices are fun and quirky...but do not meet the PWA criteria.<br /><br />Dick has created a favorites list, and that's fair -- everybody has their favorites. I wish my Nate Heller was on his. But it's his list and his favorites.<br /><br />They just ain't all essentials.Max Allan Collinshttp://www.maxallancollins.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-30999035654246576902010-09-02T00:58:53.386-07:002010-09-02T00:58:53.386-07:00Tony Rome may have been terrible, but I loved it!
...Tony Rome may have been terrible, but I loved it!<br /><br />RJRRJRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-21249774150076625452010-09-01T08:41:36.101-07:002010-09-01T08:41:36.101-07:00Of the ones I read, I only take offense to Arthur ...Of the ones I read, I only take offense to Arthur Lyons's HARD TRADE. I thought that was a lesser novel and that his best were ALL GOD'S CHILDREN or FALSE PRETENSE.<br /><br />Nice lists though, and a few movies and books I need to check out.<br /><br />Dan LuftAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-90096797306541577122010-09-01T07:22:29.230-07:002010-09-01T07:22:29.230-07:00Very cool. I have read very little of the private ...Very cool. I have read very little of the private eye stuff, so this should help me remedy that.Rabid Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13307255127156087170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-81914295656755483512010-08-31T19:23:40.856-07:002010-08-31T19:23:40.856-07:00Not a bad list of books. Nice to see Arthur Lyons ...Not a bad list of books. Nice to see Arthur Lyons and Jonathan Valin on the list. I would have probably included something by Michael Lewin and Stephen Greenleaf as well. Nice to see no Spillane as I find him unbearably bad.<br />As far as movies go glad to see the Big Lebowski but Tony Rome was terrible.Steve Oerkfitznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-73690992639583523632010-08-31T19:08:19.924-07:002010-08-31T19:08:19.924-07:00Great lists. I love them just for the shout-out to...Great lists. I love them just for the shout-out to Goodnight My Love with Richard Boone and Michael Dunn. I thought I was the only one who had it on a list. I gotta find that on DVD - it never pops up on TV.<br /><br />wv: urate, somehow very appropriate.tomkmasonhttp://comics.gearlive.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-75868448001363721792010-08-31T18:44:47.656-07:002010-08-31T18:44:47.656-07:00Woops-You're right, Jeff. I neglected to say t...Woops-You're right, Jeff. I neglected to say that the list appeared in this month's newsletter for members of Private Eye Writers of America.Ed Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06126267358266480356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-48682886837600842542010-08-31T17:29:29.401-07:002010-08-31T17:29:29.401-07:00Good lists. I agree with most choices, but would a...Good lists. I agree with most choices, but would argue the TV show MURPHY'S LAW was a big mistake. Everything that made the books so wonderful were absent from the show, which is probably why it didn't last long.Cap'n Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783977137812876489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-67074066680023350712010-08-31T17:26:08.993-07:002010-08-31T17:26:08.993-07:00Woops, make that "temporary swan song," ...Woops, make that "temporary swan song," as I meant to say, since HARPER revived the genre three years later.Fred Blosserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307848103704970189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-7522775250122433422010-08-31T17:20:28.667-07:002010-08-31T17:20:28.667-07:00Interesting lists. But where are Al Collins, Mich...Interesting lists. But where are Al Collins, Michael Collins, Norbert Davis, Benjamin Schutz, or Raoul Whitfield? Or Spillane for Pete's sake? Can't fathom choosing JUDAS GOAT over VALEDICTION or PROMISED LAND. <br /><br />TWILIGHT didn't do much for me. I'd replace with THE GIRL HUNTERS, arguably the swan song for the private eye movie just before the Bond craze hit big.Fred Blosserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307848103704970189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-86776261636166616382010-08-31T17:09:26.320-07:002010-08-31T17:09:26.320-07:00Interesting pics. As all lists do, this one has ...Interesting pics. As all lists do, this one has set me to thinking of glaring omissions (IMO), like Latimer's SOLOMON'S VINEYARD, Delores Hitchens' SLEEP WITH SLANDER, Roney Scott's (Gault) SHAKEDOWN. I'd take those three over half those listed. And I'd suggest GALTON CASE or ZEBRA STRIPED HEARSE as MacDonald's best.<br /><br />No two people will come up with the same list. That's obvious. There's just too many strong candidates from which to choose. Thankfully!<br /><br />Thanks for posting this.Frank Loosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12564007564601986631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-91569818677255109092010-08-31T16:25:04.308-07:002010-08-31T16:25:04.308-07:00Jeff,
We at PWA are poutting together a list of ...Jeff,<br /><br /> We at PWA are poutting together a list of "Essentials." Lists are being sent to me. When I have them all I'm compile a final list of Essential novels, movies and t.v. shows, and then we'll do a press release. This is is keeping with TCM's Eddentials. Also, WWA often runs lists of their top westerns<br /><br />RJRRJRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36271824.post-9562094403362383182010-08-31T16:19:54.314-07:002010-08-31T16:19:54.314-07:00Those certainly are great lists, Ed. But where did...Those certainly are great lists, Ed. But where did they appear originally? Or did Mr. Lochte simply supply you with them for this blog post?<br /><br />Cheers,<br />JeffJ. Kingston Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073921191624535912noreply@blogger.com